What 4: the podcast that asks just that

What 4? is a podcast I started to try new things.

After the first episode, I realised that the only new thing that I really wanted to start was a podcast to find out why people do the things they do.

I spoke to the wonderful @dotlung, who I interviewed for Domestika and who later taught me to be a dragon on her course about a social media strategy. They got me questioning what was going to be different about my corner of the podcasting world.

As I began interviewing people, I learned more about the project and where I wanted to take it. And then I interviewed a non-binary beauty queen, Victoria Caram, who completely transformed how I thought of myself.

Listen to my interview with Victoria here.

They showed me that it wasn't absurd to think of myself as non-binary. Turns out, my brain's unrelenting habit of asking What 4? doesn't stop at gender norms and gender identity. Man? What 4? Gender binary? What 4?

The Instagram channel has been a gift to explore this new space beyond the confines of normal life and it has led me to think about how the identity of the podcast can grow with me.

Stay tuned on Soundcloud and Instagram.